AMD Ryzen 7 5700G, the best APU on the market | Review
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
It's been over two years since AMD launched its latest APUs, which had the Ryzen 5 3400G as the flagship model. These were processors based on Zen + architecture with 4 cores and 8 threads and integrated Vega graphics. The "Picasso" family (this is the code name) was replaced last year by "Renoir", but the Ryzen 4000G APUs remained an OEM exclusive, never being able to end up in enthusiast PCs unless they buy a pre-assembled product from which to take them. Even the new Ryzen 5000G "Cezanne" were launched as an OEM exclusive, however these processors are now also making their debut in the "do it yourself" market, to the delight of those who want to assemble an extremely cheap PC that is able to run some I play in a worthy way, even without having a dedicated video card.Today we speak in particular of the Ryzen 7 5700G, based on Zen 3 architecture like the other members of the Ryzen 5000 range. The APU is equipped with 8 cores / 16 threads, reaches a maximum frequency of 4.6GHz and supports DDR4-3200 memories, while the graphics sector offers 8CU Vega at 7nm with a clock of 2GHz. Compared to the Ryzen 7 5800X the maximum frequency is 100MHz lower and support for PCIe 4.0 is missing. The TDP is 65W and the price is $ 359.
In addition to the Ryzen 7 5700G, AMD will also release the Ryzen 5 5600G, a 6 core / 12 thread APU that will debut at $ 259. Both chips will include a Wraith Stealth heatsink in the package, powerful enough that you won't have to buy an alternative cooling solution if you don't have to perform particularly demanding tasks.
Ryzen 7 5700G review: AMD's answer to the GPU shortage has arrived
AMD’s Ryzen 5000G seems like the perfect antidote to a PC world still wracked by GPU shortages (and inflated prices for the few available). It integrates high-performing Zen 3 cores with Radeon graphics into a package called an accelerated processing unit (APU).
Whether it truly is the answer to all your needs depends largely on what you intend to do with your PC over its lifespan. We’ll walk you through the highlights and low points of this new product.
What is Ryzen 5000G?Ryzen 5000G is essentially AMD’s wildly successful 7nm Cezanne laptop chip, first used in the also wildly successful Ryzen 5000 desktop chips, but moved into an AM4 socket. You can read our review of Cezanne for full details on the chip.
AMD offered Ryzen 4000 APUs previously, but those were OEM-only for the most part. The fastest APU consumers have officially had access to was the 8-core Ryzen 5 3400G, built using an older 12nm process and AMD’s older Zen+ cores.
Two consumer Ryzen 5000G models are being introduced today, which you can officially buy beginning August 8:
The integrated graphics is one distinct aspect of these APUs over their dedicated-CPU cousins. Intel bakes graphics cores into the vast majority of its Core chips, but not AMD. Its non-G Ryzen 5000 chips need a discrete graphics card to run a PC.
Also, while “true” Ryzen 5000 desktop chips are built around multiple chips connected by Infinity Fabric, the Ryzen 5000G (much like the laptop version) is a single-chip design. Compared to Ryzen 5000, Ryzen 5000G has just half the cache (32MB to 16MB) and just 24 lanes of PCIe 3.0. Of those 24 lanes, 16 go to the GPU, and 4 from the CPU connect to NVMe. The last 4 are used to connect to the chipset, which itself can feature more PCIe lanes. You may be wistful for PCIe Gen 4, but look on the bright side: The previous consumer Ryzen 5 3400G featured a paltry 8 lanes of PCIe Gen 3.
Gordon Mah UngAMD’s Ryzen 7 5700G isn’t cheap, but it offers the company’s Zen 3 cores paired with Radeon graphics.
How we testedOur testing is provided by PCWorld’s sister site, PCWelt.de, thanks to the hard work of our colleague Sebastian Schenzinger. (You can read Schenzinger’s Ryzen 5000G review in German at the site.)
The Ryzen 5000 and Ryzen 3000 CPUs were tested on an MSI MEG X570 Godlike. PBO is disabled, and the XMP profile is enabled.
For the Intel 10th-gen systems, an Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme is used with XMP enabled. The Intel 11th-gen CPU was tested on an Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero with XMP enabled. On both Intel systems, MultiCore Enhancement is disabled.
All three testbeds used 32GB of G.Skill Trident Z Royal (4x8) at CL14, G.Skill ENKI 360 cooler with manual fan curves, WD Black SN750 drives, and a Radeon RX 6900 XT GPU with BAR enabled. We should note that in our reviews of the Ryzen 5000 and Intel 10th-gen and 11th-gen CPUs, we opt to leave MCE and PBO to the default state of the motherboard and use DDR4/3600 memory.
Ryzen 7 5700G CPU performanceWe’ll kick off our analysis of Schenzinger’s results with Cinebench R23. This is the latest version of Maxon’s popular benchmark. It largely looks like the same workload as Cinebench R20, but it now defaults to a slightly harsher 10-minute stress.
The results shouldn’t surprise anyone. AMD’s cores, with TSMC’s very efficient 7nm process, gives it a big advantage over Intel’s aging 14nm process. It’s not a good look for Intel’s most advanced desktop chip: It's in 7th place, with the Ryzen 7 5700G close behind it in 8th place. Ryzen 7 5700G also easily outpaces AMD’s older Ryzen 3000 chips and Intel’s 10th-gen parts. Basically, this is a fast CPU for heavy-duty compute tasks.
IDGCinebench R23 is a 3D rendering benchmark that defaults to a 10-minute stress test.
The next result is from the alpha version of the popular 7-Zip utility. Once again the Ryzen 7 5700G, in 8th place on the chart, represents well, easily outpacing most of the Ryzen 3000 chips as well as most of Intel’s 10th-gen chips.
IDG7-Zip is a popular and fast decompression utility on Windows 10 that’s worth infinitely more than what you pay for it: $0.
Our next result uses the free and popular 1.3.3 HandBrake utility to convert a 12GB MP4 file using the Vimeo and Youtube Preset at 4K. HandBrake's intensive workload generally favors more cores and threads. The Ryzen 7 5700G (in 7th place on the chart) again outpaces the Ryzen 7 3700X and most of Intel’s lineup, including the Core i9-11900K.
IDGHandBrake is a popular and free encoder.
Our next result is from Adobe’s Creative Suite using Puget System’s PugetBench , which the PC company uses to give proper advice to customers buying custom workstations.
PugetBench for Photoshop leans on CPU and GPU during its test runs. The winners here are the original Ryzen 5000 chips, echoing Ford’s GT40 1-2-3 win at LeMans in 1966. An honorable mention but no first place also goes to Intel’s much-maligned 11th-gen Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake chip.
The other CPUs are definitely a good step behind those, but the leader of the next pack to cross the finish line? AMD’s Ryzen 7 5700G. Granted, these results are so close to be almost a tie, but an APU outpacing the once-might Ryzen 9 3900X shows just how awesome the Zen 3 cores are.
IDGPugetBench runs Adobe Photoshop through a script and measures its performance.
The last CPU benchmark we’ll talk about is PugetBench’s test for Adobe Premiere Pro, which also uses the popular non-linear editor as a basis. One thing you can immediately see is more cores matter a bit more in video editing and Premiere Pro. Unlike the closely packed Photoshop results, there’s a little more space here between contenders.
For example, we now see the 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X move into third place with the 16-core and 12-core Ryzen 5000 chips. The 10-core Core i9-10900K has a slight edge over the 8-core Ryzen 7 5800X.
Where is the Ryzen 7 5700G? In a comfortable 5th-place spot, sandwiched between the 8-core 11th-gen Core i9-11900K and the 10-core Core i9-10850K. All three are basically tied, which is a pretty good spot for a lowly APU, ain’t it?
IDGPugetBench measures the performance of a PC using Adobe Premiere Pro.
Ryzen 7 5700G Gaming PerformanceBy now you can see that with the Ryzen 7 APU, you’re getting eight of AMD’s outstanding Zen 3 cores that yield little to Intel and its siblings. But we know you’re probably considering a Ryzen APU because you can’t afford or even find a GPU.
For that, Sebastian’s results stick to your only real choices: The new Ryzen 7 5700G and its 8 CU Radeon cores; the previous Ryzen 5 3400G (remember the Ryzen 4000 APUs were not generally offered to consumers); and Intel’s 11th-gen UHD 750 and 10th-gen UHD 630 graphics. The results show the graphics performance with typical DDR4/3200 CL14, and also what you get out of the Ryzen 7 5700G at DDR4/3600 CL16.
Up first is Metro Exodus set to 1080p and using the low preset. If you're a gamer used to high-end gaming performance, the results won’t set your world on fire. You’re really not seeing a huge advantage over the previous retail Ryzen 5 3400G either. Still, all three Radeon-based chips offer up frame rates that are fair. That’s especially good compared to the UHD 630 graphics, which doesn’t run at all.
While Intel’s 10nm-based, 11th-gen Tiger Lake has pretty impressive integrated performance in its Xe-rated chips. Intel actually opted for CPU performance more than GPU performance, however, as it had to use an older 14nm process for the 11th-gen Rocket Lake CPUs.
IDGIn Metro Exodus, the Radeon does reasonably well, especially next to Intel’s integrated graphics.
Next up is Shadows of the Tomb Raider using the Very Low preset at 1080p resolution.
The Ryzen 7 5700G again leads the way with about 15 percent higher average frame rates than the older Ryzen 5 3400G. Yes indeed, the 8 CUs in the Ryzen 7 5700G are more efficient than the 11 CUs in the older Ryzen 5 3400G. Intel parts, again, show glaring weakness here. Rocket Lake ain’t no Tiger Lake.
IDGYou see about a 15-percent increase in average frame rates in the newest Ryzen 7 5700G over the previous top retail APU: The Ryzen 5 3400G.
Both Metro Exodus and Shadows of the Tomb Raider—even at their lower settings—are pretty difficult games for integrated graphics to handle. Frankly, while they are playable, they're not the games most gamers on integrated graphics are playing.
So our next game is Counter Strike Global Offensive at 1080p and set to low. Yup, CS:GO is so low-rent, even Intel’s UHD 630 can hit an average frame rate of 57 fps--though with dips as low are 7 fps. Of more interest is the Ryzen 7 5700G, which can push an impressive 149 fps average, a rate about 30 percent higher than the Radeon 5 3400G's. You also get a decent uptick by going with DDR4/3600, but that isn’t free.
IDGCS:GO is the most popular game on Steam.
Next up is another incredibly popular game: Epic’s Fortnite. This game is so popular and important, it allowed Epic to strike out on its own and create its own storefront out of the shadow of Valve. Its ability to run on just about every PC on this planet helped a lot. We say that because even Intel’s UHD 630 graphics can run it at a decent clip.
AMD would like to show any parents buying their kids a system those longer bars on top, which all come from AMD’s Ryzen APU chips. Yes, parents, if you want your kid to stop complaining about bandwidth, you’ll want an AMD APU.
Should you upgrade from your Ryzen 5 3400G to a Ryzen 7 5700G? Probably not. That roughly 10-percent increase is nice, but probably not worth the investment for this one game on the IGP.
IDGFortnite is an immensely popular game and you’ll definitely want an APU over an Intel chip for this game.
The last result is Overwatch, another popular game that can run on fairly low-end graphics. The Ryzen 7 5700G leads the way with a decent 17-percent edge over the older Ryzen APU. Both Intel desktop graphics can run it, but they clearly don’t hold a candle to AMD.
IDGThe newer Ryzen APU has about a 17-percent edge over the older Ryzen APU.
Integrated graphics are pretty awesome because of their price, but what happens when GPUs come back to earth? We’ll abbreviate Sebastian’s testing to just two games where a Radeon RX 6900XT is plugged into the various systems to measure performance. The game we pick is Tom Clancy’s The Division 2, which isn’t as GPU-limited as many games--the CPU moves the needle more.
There’s a clear pack of winners here, and we’d put the Ryzen 7 5700G in the second pack. It's slightly slower than the Ryzen 5 5600X.
IDGThe last chart shows the Ryzen 7 5700G with that same Radeon RX 6900XT, running Borderlands 3 at 720p and the Badass preset. You can now see the Ryzen 5 5600X open an even larger lead against the Ryzen 7 5700G.
IDGThat last point is very much what you need to consider when thinking about buying a Ryzen 7 5700G chip vs. a non-G chip. Its gaming performance with a discrete GPU is good—but it takes a back seat to the non-G chips in gaming with a discrete GPU.
With the Ryzen 5 5600X street-priced at $280, against the Ryzen 7 5700G’s list price of $360—that's tough sell. For this segment where price is President, it just makes sense to go for the non-G chip.
ConclusionWe know: If GPUs were plentiful and reasonably priced, you wouldn’t even be considering an APU. In the world we live, having a chip with a good graphics core is better than not having anything at all you can afford.
That’s why despite its seemingly painful price of $359, we think the Ryzen 7 5700G is all win. It can hang with and even beat Intel’s 11th- and 10th-gen chips in CPU-bound tasks. When it comes to gaming performance using the onboard graphics, it simply wrecks them.
Are you going to complain that the Ryzen 7 5700G at $359 is an insult to the memory of the Ryzen 5 3400G, which had a suggested price of $149? You will, you will. But considering the state of the world today, we understand its pricing and recognize its potential for people who can really grow into a system. You can, for example, build a Ryzen 5 5700G machine today and get outstanding CPU performance along with OK gaming performance.
Should GPUs come back to earth, sometime in 2022 or 2023, you can drop in a GPU and still get that great CPU performance with slightly slower, but still outstanding gaming performance. Even better, should you come across a windfall, you can upgrade that same AM4 motherboard to a 12-core or 16-core Ryzen.
It wouldn’t make sense if you could buy a Ryzen 5 5600X today with a GPU, but we can tell you that’s not going to happen for the price of $359.
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